MAWN: A few of the things you did to make Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu ‘palatable’ to the typical suburban community was that you made it systemized so that you could teach it. You sort of integrated things like what a Karate or Taekwondo stylist would consider a form, where there were patterns of movements that were taught in chunks. I think you took some heat for that. How do you feel that that has been a benefit or a detriment, and what other sort of mechanisms like that do you feel helped bring Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu to the reach of more people? CM: When you talk about ‘lifestyle,’ you’re talking about joining. When
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